Can anyone tell me what the difference is between trade emulsion and
emulsion for sale in the sheds? I can buy both Trade and standard
emulsion at my local Brewers but I don't know what the difference
is!!

Cheers

Angela

"AK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>Can anyone tell me what the difference is between trade emulsion and
>emulsion for sale in the sheds? I can buy both Trade and standard
>emulsion at my local Brewers but I don't know what the difference
>is!!


I remember when, several years ago on "Changing Rooms", one of the
couples proudly returned from a trip to B&Q with a large plastic tub
of Trade Paint ...

and Handy Andy said "I see you've bought some Three-Coat Emulsion".

;-)

Moral of the story; treat the sheds' own-brand "trade" emulsion with
the greatest caution.

Of course, if you go to a trade supplier and buy a *branded* trade
paint, you will find it is of very good quality, and often needs to be
thinned before use.

"AK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Can anyone tell me what the difference is between trade emulsion and
> emulsion for sale in the sheds? I can buy both Trade and standard
> emulsion at my local Brewers but I don't know what the difference
> is!!
>
> Cheers
>
> Angela
>
>
Have you noticed there is a bit of help from Dulux to answer this question
about Dulux products, on the Dulux web page under Frequently Asked
Questions? I am not much wiser after reading it though; different
consistency because professionals like to thin their paint, both are "made
to the same ... specification" but have a "different formulation".

"AK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Can anyone tell me what the difference is between trade emulsion and
> emulsion for sale in the sheds? I can buy both Trade and standard
> emulsion at my local Brewers but I don't know what the difference
> is!!

Don't buy any own brand paint - trade or DIY. The price looks cheap but
per m^2 of finished job it inevitably works out more expensive.

But if you mean Dulux Trade it does have a different consistancy. I think
this may be because professional painters thin the paint to get it on faster
so it needs more pigment.

"G&M" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "AK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > Can anyone tell me what the difference is between trade emulsion
and
> > emulsion for sale in the sheds? I can buy both Trade and
standard
> > emulsion at my local Brewers but I don't know what the difference
> > is!!
>
> Don't buy any own brand paint - trade or DIY. The price looks
cheap but
> per m^2 of finished job it inevitably works out more expensive.
>
> But if you mean Dulux Trade it does have a different consistancy.
I think
> this may be because professional painters thin the paint to get it
on faster
> so it needs more pigment.

I usually buy Dulux or Crown, I have experienced how rubbish shed
brand paints are so avoid them. Somebody told me Albany paints are
pretty good but I have no experience of them so I am wary of using
them. there is a colour I like in National Trust paint, but as I am
doing the hall and stairs of a 3 story house I would have to sell my
soul to the devil to be able to afford to buy enough. Albany have
(what looks like) the same colour, but am very wary as I have never
used it before.

So.......this may be another daft question but if I use trade paint
and don't thin it down is it likely that I may get away with just one
coat (the colours are very similar anyway)?

Angela

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> "G&M" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > "AK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:cbkphp$7s8$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Can anyone tell me what the difference is between trade emulsion
> and
> > > emulsion for sale in the sheds? I can buy both Trade and
> standard
> > > emulsion at my local Brewers but I don't know what the difference
> > > is!!
> >
> > Don't buy any own brand paint - trade or DIY. The price looks
> cheap but
> > per m^2 of finished job it inevitably works out more expensive.
> >
> > But if you mean Dulux Trade it does have a different consistancy.
> I think
> > this may be because professional painters thin the paint to get it
> on faster
> > so it needs more pigment.
>
> I usually buy Dulux or Crown, I have experienced how rubbish shed
> brand paints are so avoid them. Somebody told me Albany paints are
> pretty good but I have no experience of them so I am wary of using
> them. there is a colour I like in National Trust paint, but as I am
> doing the hall and stairs of a 3 story house I would have to sell my
> soul to the devil to be able to afford to buy enough. Albany have
> (what looks like) the same colour, but am very wary as I have never
> used it before.
>
> So.......this may be another daft question but if I use trade paint
> and don't thin it down is it likely that I may get away with just one
> coat (the colours are very similar anyway)?
>
> Angela
>
>

I doubt it.

I've just painted the downstairs receptions using Farrow & Ball Estate
Emulsion, and even painting on an even base of fresh brilliant white matt
there was no way that I could achieve an even coating using just one coat.
This is pretty good paint, but even this required a second coat.

I used to use Dulux Trade pretty much exclusively when decorating, but after
lengthy conversations with the decorator in the family switched to Leyland
or Johnstones, and I don't notice the difference - in application or finish
(and I am a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to decorating). The
difference that I do notice is in the price - not far off half the price of
the Dulux.

Albany falls somewhere in the middle of the price IIRC. There's a Brewers
near us, and though I've used it once I don't really like it as a store
because they only sell Dulux and their own brand - Albany - in the trade
paints. They're not particularly cheap, either.

If I were you I'd go with two coats, and not thin the paint (I never have,
and to my knowledge the decorator doesn't, either).

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"AK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<cbl0cu$9ul$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> "G&M" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > > Can anyone tell me what the difference is between trade emulsion
> and
> > > emulsion for sale in the sheds? I can buy both Trade and
> standard
> > > emulsion at my local Brewers but I don't know what the difference
> > > is!!

Trade emulsion is very low quality breathable paint, more like
distempter than vinyl emulsion. I think many people are fooled into
thinking its a good safe buy because its called 'trade.'

Leyland do some good quality paints, and at sensible prices. See
screwfix.com. Dulux I've had very mixed results with, and their prices
can be a bit stupid.


> So.......this may be another daft question but if I use trade paint
> and don't thin it down is it likely that I may get away with just one
> coat (the colours are very similar anyway)?
>
> Angela

No chance. If not thinned, no chance, unless youre unfussy about the
finish. FWIW I'd avoid the so called trade paints except when going
onto fresh plaster. Theyre simply carp.


Regards, NT

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:50:02 +0100, TP <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"AK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>Can anyone tell me what the difference is between trade emulsion and
>>emulsion for sale in the sheds? I can buy both Trade and standard
>>emulsion at my local Brewers but I don't know what the difference
>>is!!
>
>
>I remember when, several years ago on "Changing Rooms", one of the
>couples proudly returned from a trip to B&Q with a large plastic tub
>of Trade Paint ...
>
>and Handy Andy said "I see you've bought some Three-Coat Emulsion".
>
>;-)
>
>Moral of the story; treat the sheds' own-brand "trade" emulsion with
>the greatest caution.
>
>Of course, if you go to a trade supplier and buy a *branded* trade
>paint, you will find it is of very good quality, and often needs to be
>thinned before use.

Dulux or Crown are fine for woodwork, e.g. satin wood, or gloss. But I
would *never* pay the extortionate price they demand for ordinary
emulsion for walls. I used the Homebase brand extensively (matt white
emulsion), which is roughly half the price of Dulux. After painting a
whole house with it, I know that it is just as good as the Dulux brand
in covering and whiteness, as I have used Dulux emulsion before. Also,
it doesn't smell so bad (the Dulux stuff seems to smell of rotten eggs
while it's drying).

As for all the "posh" paints, like Farrow & Ball or National Trust,
well, to my mind people just have more money than sense! It's only
paint, for heck's sake!

The secret is in the preparation, anyway. That's where the effort
goes, or should. Get a good surface to start with and you can get
excellent results with Woolworths own brand!

MM

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> > On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:50:02 +0100, TP <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> snip
> >
> > As for all the "posh" paints, like Farrow & Ball or National Trust,
> > well, to my mind people just have more money than sense! It's only
> > paint, for heck's sake!
> >
> There is the slight matter of colour availability

But the Dulux mix at the shop gives almost every possible permutation.

G&M wrote:

> Don't buy any own brand paint - trade or DIY. The price looks cheap but
> per m^2 of finished job it inevitably works out more expensive.

I disagree.
Having recently had the whole of the living area of our house
re-plastered including ceilings, I can vouch for Wickes' Trade white
emulsion.
Applied by roller it covered all walls and fresh plaster in a single
coat applied by roller.

That's 2 x 6x4m rooms with ceilings.


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