Hi all.
I fancy using slate tiles for a hearth and back.
So it would be 4 x 30cm square tiles for a 1.2m length hearth
but how should I build up the height to the usual hearth depth?

n.b.
I will be surrounding the front and sides with timber to cover the
edges of laminate flooring.

Thanks.

Arthur

Arthur 51 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I fancy using slate tiles for a hearth and back.
> So it would be 4 x 30cm square tiles for a 1.2m length hearth
> but how should I build up the height to the usual hearth depth?

Paving slabs.
300 square x 50mm would be about right I reckon.
Alan.

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In article <2894896e-7b5a-48ad-8f3a-(E-Mail Removed)>,
Arthur 51 <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> Hi all.
> I fancy using slate tiles for a hearth and back.
> So it would be 4 x 30cm square tiles for a 1.2m length hearth
> but how should I build up the height to the usual hearth depth?
>
> n.b.
> I will be surrounding the front and sides with timber to cover the
> edges of laminate flooring.

I used a mortar bed.

Make sure you check minimum hight above existing floor and depth
required for any type of fire you might use there. ISTR gas fires
require 2" (or probably 50mm nowadays) above existing floor
coverings, and I can't recall the depth required.

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On 9 Mar, 16:24, a...@darkroom.+.com (A.Lee) wrote:
> Arthur 51 <tally...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > I fancy using slate tiles for a hearth and back.
> > So it would be 4 x 30cm square tiles for a 1.2m length hearth
> > but how should I build up the height to the usual hearth depth?
>
> Paving slabs.
> 300 square x 50mm would be about right I reckon.
> Alan.
>
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I've just done a search and it seems that a hearth should be a minimum
of 15" or 40cm deep.
I also want to keep the cost down so buying 2" thick slate sounds
expensive.
I'm now thinking of 40cm square slate tiles that would be about
10/12mm thick.

Arthur

On 9 Mar, 16:33, and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
> In article <2894896e-7b5a-48ad-8f3a-4a5372717...@e10g2000vbe.googlegroups..com>,
> * * * * Arthur 51 <tally...@googlemail.com> writes:
>
> > Hi all.
> > I fancy using slate tiles for a hearth and back.
> > So it would be 4 x 30cm square tiles for a 1.2m length hearth
> > but how should I build up the height to the usual hearth depth?
>
> > n.b.
> > I will be surrounding the front and sides with timber to cover the
> > edges of laminate flooring.
>
> I used a mortar bed.
>
> Make sure you check minimum hight above existing floor and depth
> required for any type of fire you might use there. ISTR gas fires
> require 2" (or probably 50mm nowadays) above existing floor
> coverings, and I can't recall the depth required.
>
> --
> Andrew Gabriel
> [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

How did you set shutter the mortar bed?
And what mix of mortar?
And..did you set the tiles on tile cement...
Arthur

Arthur 51 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Hi all.
> I fancy using slate tiles for a hearth and back.
> So it would be 4 x 30cm square tiles for a 1.2m length hearth
> but how should I build up the height to the usual hearth depth?

One of ours is a hearth constructed with a brick core and then tiled -
in our case with heavy terracotta "pammets". No idea what's under the
others.

Arthur 51 wrote:
> On 9 Mar, 16:24, a...@darkroom.+.com (A.Lee) wrote:
>> Arthur 51 <tally...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> I fancy using slate tiles for a hearth and back.
>>> So it would be 4 x 30cm square tiles for a 1.2m length hearth
>>> but how should I build up the height to the usual hearth depth?
>>
>> Paving slabs.
>> 300 square x 50mm would be about right I reckon.
>> Alan.
>>
>> --
>> To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'.
>
> I've just done a search and it seems that a hearth should be a minimum
> of 15" or 40cm deep.
> I also want to keep the cost down so buying 2" thick slate sounds
> expensive.
> I'm now thinking of 40cm square slate tiles that would be about
> 10/12mm thick.
>
> Arthur

B&Q have 400mm paving slabs @ about £1.30 each, they are about 25mm thick,
so if you lay them on 10mm of sand/cement mixed at 3:1, plus your tile
adhesive, plus your tiles, you will have a proper thickness.

once it's all set, you can drill and plug the edges to affix timber, or,
affix a framework of 3X2 to the floor, infill with any mixture of the above,
then fix your skirtings to this once tiling is complete.

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Arthur 51 wrote:
> "Phil L" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:eZetl.5015$(E-Mail Removed) ...
>> Arthur 51 wrote:
>>> On 9 Mar, 16:24, a...@darkroom.+.com (A.Lee) wrote:
>>>> Arthur 51 <tally...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I fancy using slate tiles for a hearth and back.
>>>>> So it would be 4 x 30cm square tiles for a 1.2m length hearth
>>>>> but how should I build up the height to the usual hearth depth?
>>>>
>>>> Paving slabs.
>>>> 300 square x 50mm would be about right I reckon.
>>>> Alan.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'.
>>>
>>> I've just done a search and it seems that a hearth should be a
>>> minimum of 15" or 40cm deep.
>>> I also want to keep the cost down so buying 2" thick slate sounds
>>> expensive.
>>> I'm now thinking of 40cm square slate tiles that would be about
>>> 10/12mm thick.
>>>
>>> Arthur
>>
>> B&Q have 400mm paving slabs @ about £1.30 each, they are about 25mm
>> thick, so if you lay them on 10mm of sand/cement mixed at 3:1, plus
>> your tile adhesive, plus your tiles, you will have a proper
>> thickness. once it's all set, you can drill and plug the edges to affix
>> timber,
>> or, affix a framework of 3X2 to the floor, infill with any mixture
>> of the above, then fix your skirtings to this once tiling is
>> complete.
> .
> I was thinking about that, too.
> is it red sand or sharp sand for the mortar layer?
>
> Arthur

it's not important, any sand you have, or whichever is cheapest

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Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008

Arthur 51 wrote:
> Hi all.
> I fancy using slate tiles for a hearth and back.
> So it would be 4 x 30cm square tiles for a 1.2m length hearth
> but how should I build up the height to the usual hearth depth?
>
> n.b.
> I will be surrounding the front and sides with timber to cover the
> edges of laminate flooring.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arthur

Cast a plinth of rubble and mortar.

Done it several times. Great fun.

If over a flexible floor like suspended wood, use a bit of chicken wire
at the base or similar.

And go easy on the rubble and make it more or less concrete.

Arthur 51 wrote:
> On 9 Mar, 16:33, and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
>> In article <2894896e-7b5a-48ad-8f3a-4a5372717...@e10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
>> Arthur 51 <tally...@googlemail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Hi all.
>>> I fancy using slate tiles for a hearth and back.
>>> So it would be 4 x 30cm square tiles for a 1.2m length hearth
>>> but how should I build up the height to the usual hearth depth?
>>> n.b.
>>> I will be surrounding the front and sides with timber to cover the
>>> edges of laminate flooring.
>> I used a mortar bed.
>>
>> Make sure you check minimum hight above existing floor and depth
>> required for any type of fire you might use there. ISTR gas fires
>> require 2" (or probably 50mm nowadays) above existing floor
>> coverings, and I can't recall the depth required.
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Gabriel
>> [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
>
> How did you set shutter the mortar bed?
> And what mix of mortar?
> And..did you set the tiles on tile cement...
> Arthur


Look I've done it many ways.

Concrete blocks laid on the side bedded on about 3:1 mortar is good for
deep stuff. For less depth use straight mortar with sharp sand and a bit
of aggregate thrown in, and reinforce with wire. You ar probably not
advised to go less than about 50mm with concrete though..less than that
is practically a matter of simply hoping the substrate is not flexible,
and using just a thick mortar bed. And slapping slates straight on top.


Ive used thick tile cement for up to 1.5" depth. Proper stuff. None of
yer shed 'tubs'. Ardurit fast setting.