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Dave Baker
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      05-10-2009, 04:45 PM

"Peter Hemmings" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I am a reasonable DIYer and have had various problems with my 8 year old
> Zanussi Jet Stream machine which I have resolved, including renewing the
> drum bearing last year!
>
> I had some problems with dermatitis and found the machine leaves some
> detergent in the water after 3 rinses and cannot seem to resolve the
> sutuation. I would appreciate any thoughts before getting rid of my "Old
> Friend".
> What I have checked so far:
>
> 1. Checked filter and outlet pipes are clear (including drum), also tried
> with direct U-bend outlet into sink.
>
> 2. Pump operates OK and have checked 240 volts is supplied when operating.
> Pump removed and impeller seems to be free and fixed to shaft.
>
> 3. Put a small amount of powder directly into drum with no clothes in it
> and there were still quite a lot of suds in it even after extra rinsing (5
> times).
>
>
> I was told that on this machine (FJS 1197W) there is no control over pump
> except for timing and that it should remove full drum in about 75 seconds,
> which it seems to do! However I do not get a "whooshing" sound (sorry
> about this non tech term!) at the end of draining period. What I suspect
> is happening is that the pump is not producing a sufficient head to fully
> push all the water out, is this a possibility or do pumps just work or
> not work?
>
> Anything I may have missed?


Is the machine filling with hot water on the rinse cycles? If not it'll
struggle to remove all traces of detergent. I have no central heating or hot
water in the house at present so my washing machine has to heat the water
itself. It does that fine on the wash cycle but I'm not sure about the rinse
ones and it definitely doesn't rinse as well as it used to when there was
hot water from the boiler. I usually just give it a second rinse cycle after
the main wash and also make sure not to overfill with clothes which makes a
huge difference to both washing and rinsing.

Try feeling the temperature of the door glass while it's rinsing. Also check
that you have the hot and cold pipes connected back to the right inlets
after your last bit of DIY. Get those wrong and it'll try to fill itself
with cold water only and then heat that up inside afterwards. I found that
was the problem with a friend's machine which was doing a crappy job of
washing things.

I doubt if it's the pump. Even if a bit of water was left each time that
would become diluted to almost nothing after only a couple of cycles of
filling and emptying.
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Dave Baker


 
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      05-10-2009, 05:42 PM

"Dave Baker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Is the machine filling with hot water on the rinse cycles? If not it'll
> struggle to remove all traces of detergent. I have no central heating or
> hot water in the house at present so my washing machine has to heat the
> water itself. It does that fine on the wash cycle but I'm not sure about
> the rinse ones and it definitely doesn't rinse as well as it used to when
> there was hot water from the boiler. I usually just give it a second rinse
> cycle after the main wash


or I let the main wash finish and then put it on a quick wash cycle to act
as a second rinse but one that will ensure the machine heats the water if it
isn't designed to do that in a normal rinse cycle.
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Matty F
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      05-10-2009, 08:11 PM
On May 11, 7:17 am, Peter Hemmings <pe...@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
wrote:
> Thanks for the replies,
> Update:
>
> I have found a possible source of the problem, there was a fair amount
> of old hard detergent powder under the powder tray. After cleaning,
> just tried a wash with a 50% reduction of powder, its seem a lot
> better!! I think I agree with other posters that a new pump is unlikely
> to cure the fault.


I have not used the powder tray ever since I discovered that the tray
didn't empty sometimes and kept adding powder to the rinse cycles.
I just put the powder in with the washing and that works well.
 
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Toby
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      05-10-2009, 10:49 PM
Peter Hemmings wrote:
> Thanks for the replies,
> Update:
>
> I have found a possible source of the problem, there was a fair amount
> of old hard detergent powder under the powder tray. After cleaning, just
> tried a wash with a 50% reduction of powder, its seem a lot better!!


Do you ever run a really hot wash though the machine, or always stick to 40?

If not, then try running the machine at it's hottest wash (empty) to
give the internals a really good clean!

Toby...
 
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