I went to put in the new sink tonight, and the drains on the new are
offest (horizontally) from the old. So the disposal and drain from the
house, don't line up - they're too widely spaced.

Is this a) something I can deal with by a trip to Home Depot, b)
handyguy will do it in 2 hours, or c) call the plumber already?

Thanks,
JSH

On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:24:06 -0700, "Julie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I went to put in the new sink tonight, and the drains on the new are
>offest (horizontally) from the old. So the disposal and drain from the
>house, don't line up - they're too widely spaced.

That's normal.

>Is this a) something I can deal with by a trip to Home Depot, b)
>handyguy will do it in 2 hours, or c) call the plumber already?

A, B or C - Your choice. Though in my experience, A is usually two
trips to Home Depot, three to Ace Hardware and one to the liquor
store...

Jeff

Jeff - I measure the complexity of my projects by number of trips to the
store. I think your probably correct. This could be aproaching a 2 trip job
for me. For the OP then a 6 trip job with one to get a beverage is just
about right.

I have done jobs as small as Zero trips and as large as 100+ trips.


"Jeff Cochran" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:24:06 -0700, "Julie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >I went to put in the new sink tonight, and the drains on the new are
> >offest (horizontally) from the old. So the disposal and drain from the
> >house, don't line up - they're too widely spaced.
>
> That's normal.
>
> >Is this a) something I can deal with by a trip to Home Depot, b)
> >handyguy will do it in 2 hours, or c) call the plumber already?
>
> A, B or C - Your choice. Though in my experience, A is usually two
> trips to Home Depot, three to Ace Hardware and one to the liquor
> store...
>
> Jeff

Brikp wrote:
> Jeff - I measure the complexity of my projects by number of trips to the
> store. I think your probably correct. This could be aproaching a 2 trip job
> for me. For the OP then a 6 trip job with one to get a beverage is just
> about right.
>
> I have done jobs as small as Zero trips and as large as 100+ trips.
>
>
> "Jeff Cochran" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:24:06 -0700, "Julie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I went to put in the new sink tonight, and the drains on the new are
>>>offest (horizontally) from the old. So the disposal and drain from the
>>>house, don't line up - they're too widely spaced.
>>
>>That's normal.
>>
>>
>>>Is this a) something I can deal with by a trip to Home Depot, b)
>>>handyguy will do it in 2 hours, or c) call the plumber already?
>>
>>A, B or C - Your choice. Though in my experience, A is usually two
>>trips to Home Depot, three to Ace Hardware and one to the liquor
>>store...
>>
>>Jeff
>
>
>
In a similar vein I measure the appearance of my front lawn in miles per
hour. (The speed at which someone needs to be driving by before they
don't notice how bad it looks.)

We've had quite a bit of rain in the last couple of weeks, so the lawn's
down to maybe 30 mph now.


Jeff

--
Jeff Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"My luck is so bad that if I bought a cemetery, people would stop dying."

"Bob" <bobwhite-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> "Julie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >
> > I went to put in the new sink tonight, and the drains on the new
> > are offest (horizontally) from the old. So the disposal and
> > drain from the house, don't line up - they're too widely spaced.
> >
> > Is this a) something I can deal with by a trip to Home Depot, b)
> > handyguy will do it in 2 hours, or c) call the plumber already?
>
> Buy some PVC of the right size, a couple 90 degree and 45 degree
> elbows and start fitting things together.

Ok ... how do I get the old stuff apart (sure doesn't pry apart), and
what kind of sealant/adhesive to put new stuff together?

JSH

If I do it myself: gin/tonic/ice
If I end up caving in and calling for help: cosmo

If you have a digital camera, take some pictures and head to the
nearest plumbing place and show them. You might get a flexible part
that can bridge that distance, or you might have to spend up to $20
for complete replacement of major parts. (Probably much less but
trivial anyway, compared to hiring a plumber.) It's an easy fix,
really, though physically uncomfortable to lie under the sink messing
around with parts.

Make a very detailed drawing if you can't take a picture with you. Add
measurements so the plumbing clerk has some idea how far the parts
have to stretch, and in which direction.



"Julie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> I went to put in the new sink tonight, and the drains on the new are
> offest (horizontally) from the old. So the disposal and drain from the
> house, don't line up - they're too widely spaced.
>
> Is this a) something I can deal with by a trip to Home Depot, b)
> handyguy will do it in 2 hours, or c) call the plumber already?
>
> Thanks,
> JSH

Julie wrote:

> Ok ... how do I get the old stuff apart (sure doesn't pry apart), and
> what kind of sealant/adhesive to put new stuff together?

I am no expert, but we just did our sink by ourselves. Now, assuming
your pipes are plastic, once the plastic is glued, you aren't ever
getting it apart. Buy appropriate pieces so that you can make the
connection without having to chop out the old pieces (some sort of elbow
should probably do it for you). If you have to remove old pieces I think
you'll need to physically cut the plastic.

The adhesive we used to put the pipes together I believe was called ABS
glue. It comes in a metal can with a brush in the lid and is yellow in
colour. Follow the instructions on the can, you have to work quickly as
it bonds really fast.

From our experience I'd suggest buying duplicates of every piece you
need, they are not expensive parts (assuming plastic). Only glue one
piece at a time, and check the angles after each piece is connected. If
the angle is slightly off after you've glued you can hopefully make up
for it with the next connection, or start over with the extras you
bought. :-) You can always return any unused pieces.

A non-experts opinion.

"Bob" <bobwhite-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>
> You can't get the old stuff apart. It is glued (welded) with
> PVC cement. Use a hack saw and cut it.

Yah, thought it might involve some saw I don't own.

As it turns out, called my handy guy pal, he brought his saw, we went to
HD, and it's done. Two beers.

And now my BRAND FREAKIN' NEW dishwasher is not draining. New air gap,
new drains, everything! Sheesh!

This after some board was *already* replaced last week (fan kept running
non-stop). Getting really close to sending this one back to the hades
from which it sprang too ...

JSH

"Julie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>
> And now my BRAND FREAKIN' NEW dishwasher is not draining.

Uhmmm. Uhhh. Yes, I did forget to poke out the appropriate hole in the
new disposal. Duh!

But it did need a new board last week. Yep, I will be springing for
that extended service contract.

JSH

"Julie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> "Bob" <bobwhite-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> > "Julie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >
> > > I went to put in the new sink tonight, and the drains on the new
> > > are offest (horizontally) from the old. So the disposal and
> > > drain from the house, don't line up - they're too widely spaced.
> > >
> > > Is this a) something I can deal with by a trip to Home Depot, b)
> > > handyguy will do it in 2 hours, or c) call the plumber already?
> >
> > Buy some PVC of the right size, a couple 90 degree and 45 degree
> > elbows and start fitting things together.
>
> Ok ... how do I get the old stuff apart (sure doesn't pry apart), and
> what kind of sealant/adhesive to put new stuff together?
>
> JSH
>
> If I do it myself: gin/tonic/ice
> If I end up caving in and calling for help: cosmo

Leave about 3 inches of drainpipe coming out of the wall.
Remove all the rest.
Measure the old pipe diameter (1.25 or 1.5 inch).
Go to Home Depot and buy a good assortment of compression type
plumbing (Easily adjustable and nuts finger tighten all joints).
Use all the parts you need.
Take the rest of the parts back to Home Depot for a refund.

Bob S.