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john Smith
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      03-25-2005, 02:44 PM
Hello,

How much is it to have things chrome plated.

I have 3 pairs of external door handles, that have holes in for mortice
locks.

How much is to have them chrome plated.

I was quoted £15 each...........thats £90 from a place in salford
manchester.

And they wanted them for 2-3 weeks

a bit excessive I thought.


 
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Dave Plowman (News)
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      03-25-2005, 03:29 PM
In article <jtV0e.675$(E-Mail Removed)>,
john Smith <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> How much is it to have things chrome plated.


> I have 3 pairs of external door handles, that have holes in for mortice
> locks.


> How much is to have them chrome plated.


> I was quoted £15 each...........thats £90 from a place in salford
> manchester.


> And they wanted them for 2-3 weeks


> a bit excessive I thought.


It's quite usual for it to cost more to have something plated than the new
cost of one factory made.

Assuming the ones you have are new, and brass, the lacquer will have to be
removed and the metal polished - all very labour intensive. If they are
already chrome plated which needs re-doing - or old brass - this just adds
to the work.

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Andy Dingley
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      03-25-2005, 04:16 PM
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:44:31 GMT, "john Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>How much is it to have things chrome plated.


One handle. £50

Five handles £50

Fifty handles £50

Fifty thousand handles, £50/hundred

It's also hard work to have things re-chromed - the work is simpler
and generally better to have them done on new materials.

Talk to a motorbike restoration shop. They'll know who is a decent
plater and who isn't, and who's friendliest to small orders.

If nickel plate will do you, then Caswell sell a pretty good and very
simple electroless nickel kit for about £50

 
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john Smith
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      03-25-2005, 04:37 PM
If nickel plate is the stuff that is not shiny, then yes, that is actually
what I want.

I was also thining about spraying them with silver smoothrite, and then
giving them a final coating of a clear laquer.

Any ideas what this may look like ????????


"Andy Dingley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:44:31 GMT, "john Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>How much is it to have things chrome plated.

>
> One handle. £50
>
> Five handles £50
>
> Fifty handles £50
>
> Fifty thousand handles, £50/hundred
>
> It's also hard work to have things re-chromed - the work is simpler
> and generally better to have them done on new materials.
>
> Talk to a motorbike restoration shop. They'll know who is a decent
> plater and who isn't, and who's friendliest to small orders.
>
> If nickel plate will do you, then Caswell sell a pretty good and very
> simple electroless nickel kit for about £50
>



 
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raden
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      03-25-2005, 05:35 PM
In message <jtV0e.675$(E-Mail Removed)>, john Smith
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>Hello,
>
>How much is it to have things chrome plated.
>
>I have 3 pairs of external door handles, that have holes in for mortice
>locks.
>
>How much is to have them chrome plated.
>
>I was quoted £15 each...........thats £90 from a place in salford
>manchester.
>
>And they wanted them for 2-3 weeks
>

Chrome plating has become a lot more expensive since the introduction of
very stiff EU laws

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      03-27-2005, 12:44 AM
nightjar <nightjar@ wrote:

> "john Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:R6X0e.245$(E-Mail Removed)...
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>>If nickel plate is the stuff that is not shiny, then yes, that is actually
>>what I want.

>
>
> Nickel is more yellow than chrome and less durable. It is usually used as an
> undercoat to chrome and, on the best work, is itself undercoated with
> copper. If you don't want it shiny, chrome is available as a matt finish.


I actually think its more durable.

And a nicer color.

Used a lot on musical instruments is nickel plating.

Yer banjo would most likely be nickel plated, for example...

>
> For a one-off including preparation, the quotes you have seem quite
> reasonable.
>
> Colin Bignell
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      03-27-2005, 11:34 PM
In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Yekal
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>"john Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:jtV0e.675$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hello,
>>
>> How much is it to have things chrome plated.
>>
>> I have 3 pairs of external door handles, that have holes in for mortice
>> locks.
>>
>> How much is to have them chrome plated.
>>
>> I was quoted £15 each...........thats £90 from a place in salford
>> manchester.

>If this is the sam place I had some motorbike parts plated they did a crap
>job, it didn`t last long and peeled off in parts.


Poor preparation then


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      03-28-2005, 12:48 PM
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:00:38 +0100, nightjar wrote
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> Chromium is both harder and more chemical resistant than nickel. Its main
> failing is that it is brittle, which means it will flake if used on a base
> that can flex. That, however, is a failure of the design, rather than of the
> plating.


Years ago I think I read somewhere that chrome is porous and so if used alone
on steel/iron it will rust eventually. Nickel plating IIRC, is not porous and
so can be used to protect steel/iron more successfully. The best thing IIRC
for parts of cars/motorcycles being restored was to nickel plate and then
chrome plate on top of that.

Anyway I could have remembered this completely wrongly so someone with more
knowledge than me would be able to clarify the thing

Personally I've never had anything chrome plated but if I did want to chrome
plate something I think I'd enquire with classic car/motorcycle restoration
people because they do it a lot. There is very likely a newsgroup for classic
vehicle restoration or something. Might be worth a try.

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Rob Morley
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      03-28-2005, 03:02 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
"patrick j" (E-Mail Removed)lid says...
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:00:38 +0100, nightjar wrote
> (in message <(E-Mail Removed)>):
>
> > Chromium is both harder and more chemical resistant than nickel. Its main
> > failing is that it is brittle, which means it will flake if used on a base
> > that can flex. That, however, is a failure of the design, rather than of the
> > plating.

>
> Years ago I think I read somewhere that chrome is porous and so if used alone
> on steel/iron it will rust eventually. Nickel plating IIRC, is not porous and
> so can be used to protect steel/iron more successfully. The best thing IIRC
> for parts of cars/motorcycles being restored was to nickel plate and then
> chrome plate on top of that.
>

Decorative chrome plating on steel traditionally involves:
strip any existing finish
polish
copper plate
nickel plate
polish
chromium plate
with various acid dips and cleaning along the way.

The copper sticks well to the steel and forms an even base coat, the
nickel polishes well and the chromium gives a hard shine. This is
often referred to as "triple plating". Apparently advances in
technique and materials mean that nickel can now be made to adhere
well to steel, thus doing away with the copper layer. With normal
"show chrome" plating the chromium layer is very thin and most of the
shine is provided by the nickel - "hard chrome" is just a thicker
chromium layer to provide wear resistance.
 
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      03-30-2005, 10:47 PM
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> This company said chroming was a job they do all the time and did all the
> prep and finish, two of the items were spoilt, as they were made of alloy
> and came back partly disolved.


If it was Mazak - zinc alloy - which was previously plated and that needed
sorting then yes, it erodes under the parts of the plating which has
failed.

If you can't get a new one, it's best to have the original re-cast in
bronze and then plated.

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