John Smith <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Anyhow, I think it is in danger of rusting through so I am going to get a
> drill and a rust attachment on it in the next few days

YOu would be better advised to get an angle grinder and wire brush. Much
faster and more thorough than an electric drill. If you choose this
route, the andle grinders are fairly cheap - can be as cheap as £10 to
buy. You will also need leather gloves and goggles, probably hearing
protectors as well.

It's the only decent way to prepare metal for painting.

Then you need a good primer and paint. TBH a metal primer and Dulux
outdoor paint is as good as anything.

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Hi,

I have a rusty rear fire escape which I have refused to paint for about 10
years... i.e. it was galvanised metal and my Mum, God bless her, insisted on
painting it wit the end result it needed to be painted on a regular basis...

Anyhow, I think it is in danger of rusting through so I am going to get a
drill and a rust attachment on it in the next few days and then I will have
to paint it. I am looking for tips for metal painter/primer/rust treatment
for it. I am considering Hammerite's straight to rust treatment which comes
in colours, comes in big tins and apparently you can thin it and use it with
a spray gun (I have never used a spray gun before)

So, any advice on which paint to get and from where? Are there online
stockists that I can use as my local DIY store seem to deal in very small
tins only? Also, any advice on using a spray gun and are these
cheap/expensive tools to buy?

Thanks,


John.

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:37:59 GMT, John Smith wrote:

> I am looking for tips for metal painter/primer/rust treatment
> for it. I am considering Hammerite's straight to rust treatment...

I've used black smooth hammerite on heavy garden/field gate hinges.
Works well has survived our weather or a good couple of years without
obvious signs of degredation. Same can't be said for the galvanised
screws which are rusting nicely. Try not to create tiny bubbles which
form pinholes later, you do really need two coats to overcome this and
note that the second needs to be applied fairly quickly after the
first or you have to wait weeks...

> Also, any advice on using a spray gun and are these cheap/expensive
> tools to buy?

My thoughts about a spray gun outside are that 5% of the paint will
end up on the intended object, 95% all over the neighbourhood.

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In article <HdrTc.212$(E-Mail Removed)>,
John Smith <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> So, any advice on which paint to get and from where? Are there online
> stockists that I can use as my local DIY store seem to deal in very small
> tins only? Also, any advice on using a spray gun and are these
> cheap/expensive tools to buy?

Spraying is a way of getting a good finish with suitable paint on a large
surface away from any draught. Ie, in a purpose made spray booth, or
somewhere where spray scatter doesn't matter. For anything else, pointless.

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In article <WntTc.642$(E-Mail Removed)>,
John Smith <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Thanks both - hammerite it is then. Any one know an online supplier of
> it in the UK? My local B&Q has 1 one large tin in black... be nice to
> get the silver grey.

Halfords? Dunno about prices.

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Thanks both - hammerite it is then. Any one know an online supplier of it in
the UK? My local B&Q has 1 one large tin in black... be nice to get the
silver grey.

John.

"John Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:WntTc.642$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks both - hammerite it is then. Any one know an online supplier of it
in
> the UK? My local B&Q has 1 one large tin in black... be nice to get the
> silver grey.
>
> John.

Found a place that sells it online for about £35 - B&Q were a touch under
£50. Any views on the hammered versus satin versus smooth finishes for an
outside metal fire escape?


John.
>

"John Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ZptTc.1111$(E-Mail Removed)...

> Found a place that sells it online for about £35 - B&Q were a touch under
> £50. Any views on the hammered versus satin versus smooth finishes for an
> outside metal fire escape?
>
>
> John.

Forgot the url...

http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/scripts/...Finish%20Paint


John.

In article <1giiqy6.1rip35nedkizgN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>,
Steve Firth <usenet-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Then you need a good primer and paint. TBH a metal primer and Dulux
> outdoor paint is as good as anything.

Probably. IMHO, Smoothrite's a con.

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"Steve Firth" <usenet-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1giiqy6.1rip35nedkizgN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk.. .
> John Smith <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Anyhow, I think it is in danger of rusting through so I am going to get
a
> > drill and a rust attachment on it in the next few days
>
> YOu would be better advised to get an angle grinder and wire brush. Much
> faster and more thorough than an electric drill. If you choose this
> route, the andle grinders are fairly cheap - can be as cheap as £10 to
> buy. You will also need leather gloves and goggles, probably hearing
> protectors as well.
>

Thanks Steve,

Within about 5 minutes of trying the drill option today I more or less
concluded that it was the wrong tool. I took a look at angle grinders today
and wondered whether they woudl be a better tool - not sure what type 'disc'
to use with one though? Can you suggest one?

Thanks,

John.