Are "home plugs", the things that provide ethernet over the mains
wiring, point to point or point to multi point?

I may have requirement for two ethernet points that would be tricky
to cable and I only have one free port on my LAN switch anayway. Will
having one home plug attached to the switch and two more for the
devices work?

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Cheers
Dave.

"Dave Liquorice" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Are "home plugs", the things that provide ethernet over the mains
> wiring, point to point or point to multi point?
>
> I may have requirement for two ethernet points that would be tricky
> to cable and I only have one free port on my LAN switch anayway. Will
> having one home plug attached to the switch and two more for the
> devices work?
>
> --
> Cheers
> Dave.
>
>
>

Multipoint - I've got three!

Peter

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> "Dave Liquorice" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Are "home plugs", the things that provide ethernet over the mains
>> wiring, point to point or point to multi point?
>>
>> I may have requirement for two ethernet points that would be tricky
>> to cable and I only have one free port on my LAN switch anayway. Will
>> having one home plug attached to the switch and two more for the
>> devices work?
>>
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Multipoint - I've got three!
>
> Peter
>

Just an additional point that, briefly(!), caught me out recently; they must
all be plugged into the same phase - not normally a problem in the domestic
environment but a community hall...

Peter

In article <yZzbn.169215$(E-Mail Removed)2>,
Peter Andrews <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>"Peter Andrews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Dave Liquorice" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed) ll.co.uk...
>>> Are "home plugs", the things that provide ethernet over the mains
>>> wiring, point to point or point to multi point?
>>>
>>> I may have requirement for two ethernet points that would be tricky
>>> to cable and I only have one free port on my LAN switch anayway. Will
>>> having one home plug attached to the switch and two more for the
>>> devices work?
>>
>> Multipoint - I've got three!
>
>Just an additional point that, briefly(!), caught me out recently; they must
>all be plugged into the same phase - not normally a problem in the domestic
>environment but a community hall...

They also don't work well plugged into those extension leads with filters
in them - aimed specifically at computer use!

Nor do they work through electric meters - at least the standard one I
encountered in a sared residence where the landlors wanted to use them
to provide braodband, but each room had its own meter...

Gordon

On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:50:11 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

>> Are "home plugs", the things that provide ethernet over the mains
>> wiring, point to point or point to multi point?
>
> Multipoint.

Thanks and every one else. Multiple phases or meters won't be a
problem in this instance.

> Yup. Alternatively you can get multi port homeplugs[1], or for that
> matter plug a conventional switch into a homeplug to add ports.

Ha a multiport one sounds good. I do have spare hubs/switches kicking
about but that would require another wall wart to power it, even more
spaghetti and (marginally) up the 24/7 power consumption.

Any recomendations, I'm a bit of a beliver in you get what you pay
for but balance that against the markets tendancy to charge what
people will pay!

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Cheers
Dave.

"Dave Liquorice" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:50:11 +0000, John Rumm wrote:
>
>>> Are "home plugs", the things that provide ethernet over the mains
>>> wiring, point to point or point to multi point?
>>
>> Multipoint.
>
> Thanks and every one else. Multiple phases or meters won't be a
> problem in this instance.
>
>> Yup. Alternatively you can get multi port homeplugs[1], or for that
>> matter plug a conventional switch into a homeplug to add ports.
>
> Ha a multiport one sounds good. I do have spare hubs/switches kicking
> about but that would require another wall wart to power it, even more
> spaghetti and (marginally) up the 24/7 power consumption.
>
> Any recomendations, I'm a bit of a beliver in you get what you pay
> for but balance that against the markets tendancy to charge what
> people will pay!
>
> --
> Cheers
> Dave.
>
>
>

I've bought all mine from Solwise (www.solwise.co.uk) and if in stock have
always arrived next day.

Customer support is good too.

Peter

On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:19:10 +0000, Gordon Henderson wrote:

> In article <yZzbn.169215$(E-Mail Removed)2>, Peter Andrews
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>"Peter Andrews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:EWzbn.169214$(E-Mail Removed)2...
>>>
>>> "Dave Liquorice" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed) ll.co.uk...
>>>> Are "home plugs", the things that provide ethernet over the mains
>>>> wiring, point to point or point to multi point?
>>>>
>>>> I may have requirement for two ethernet points that would be tricky to
>>>> cable and I only have one free port on my LAN switch anayway. Will
>>>> having one home plug attached to the switch and two more for the
>>>> devices work?
>>>
>>> Multipoint - I've got three!
>>
>>Just an additional point that, briefly(!), caught me out recently; they
>>must all be plugged into the same phase - not normally a problem in the
>>domestic environment but a community hall...
>
> They also don't work well plugged into those extension leads with filters
> in them - aimed specifically at computer use!
>
> Nor do they work through electric meters - at least the standard one I
> encountered in a sared residence where the landlors wanted to use them to
> provide braodband, but each room had its own meter...
>
> Gordon

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I think the latter case (not working through meters) is
intentional and supposed to be one of the security features, as it
prevents neighbours plugging in and eavesdropping on your activity.

Cic.

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Dave Liquorice <(E-Mail Removed)>:
>Any recomendations, I'm a bit of a beliver in you get what you pay
>for but balance that against the markets tendancy to charge what
>people will pay!

I've used a few brands and the best has been Devolo, the 200 Mb/s
variety. They've worked flawlessly despite having two extension leads
and a 10-metre underground cable to contend with.

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Mike Barnes

On Feb 7, 4:09*pm, John Rumm <see.my.signat...@nowhere.null> wrote:

Similar problem some years ago with one of those FM (voice) intercoms
that (supposedly) work via the electric wiring. Sometimes wouldn't
work unless two outlets on the same circuit breaker etc.

There's also some nasty RFI (Radio Frequency Interference) on the
power lines these days. Surprised the regulatory authorities allow it!

"F" <news@nowhere> wrote in message
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> On 07/02/2010 19:07 John Rumm wrote:
>
>> Note that link was to the 85Mbps version, they also do some 200Mbps
>> versions designed to be able to cope with video streaming etc. Probably
>> not worth it for ordinary shared internet access, but quite handy if you
>> are going to move bulk data over the connection or do HD streaming.
>
> Go for the 200Mbps if you can. I've got a couple of ZyXEL 200Mbs homeplugs
> that I use to transfer backups to an NAS drive in a room away from my
> desktop (if they nick the desktop, hopefully, they won't go looking for
> the drive with the backups on it). It takes long enough at the higher
> speed, I wouldn't want to wait for the 85Mbps.

That would be up to 200Mbps, what speed does it actually run at?
The homeplugs I had were running at about 10% of their rated speed so I ran
cat5 to my shed and put the homeplugs on the shelf.